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    Hi everyone, I've created about 900 tracks of music and sound effects that you can freely use in your videos. It's all original...all my own work. All I ask is to be attributed in the video as described on my homepage: http://soundimage.org/ I'm a big fan of drone videos so it's always a treat for me to hear my music in them. Please feel free to share links if you happen to use some of my tracks...I sincerely hope they are helpful! All the best, Eric
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    Hi all, just got a written response back from Drone Base, with their permission to publish. See below! -- 1. We completely understand the concerns of the "potential" to get paid on Pano Missions. This is a new business model and we're working with customers up and down the real estate stack (agent/broker, owners, and data services companies). We've had some tremendous success so far in the first month of launch with thousands of Panos being completed with hundreds of distinct pilots getting paid. We're getting very creative in our sales + marketing channels and on the other side of the coin, how and what we're offering. Prices have varied bc it can come down to a quick negotiation of the assets. End of day, we'd rather the pilot get something vs nothing if we stick to a price point and the buyer is unwilling to budge. But then again, I'm also seeing some local pilots on Thumbtack or other drone marketplaces selling full shot lists and editing for $75-100 flat rates. Its definitely a fast moving industry, especially in the real estate vertical. Our pilots on average are taking about 10-15 min of flight time to complete these Pano Missions. No heavy editing required. 2. A lot of our pilots only want Client Missions (the ones that have guaranteed payments). For now, we only notify pilots about Client Missions when they are geo-located close to the property. So a pilot won't see any Client Missions until they get the notification. Trust us, we wish our map was full of client missions vs pano missions. This leads me to #3 below: 3. We recently were invited to our investor DJI Airworks Enterprise event last week, and the overarching theme was a focus on 2017 and if/when the large enterprise customers will finally deploy drones and/or have a need for a national service partner. These large enterprises have assets all over the country/world and can usually be performed on spec (ex. cell towers, etc). It'll be interesting to see if these enterprise customers will deploy because the drones & outputs/analytics must be magnitudes better vs business-as-usual (sending a person in a bucket truck up for inspection or on a roof for an insurance claim). Magnitudes better can mean a number of things from being cheaper, better data, safer, etc. 4. For privacy, the drone actually isn't circling their property or supposed to be even over the property. We understand pilots concerns and get that some may not want to fly. That's totally fine and there are no costs to be on our platform. We have our FAQ and video that explains that you are shooting in front of the property, on public ground. For this particular poster, we've actually had a ton of traction in the LA area. We obviously stay off the forums as much as possible, but we completely know that this is probably one of the biggest concerns. We've talked with DJI about our biz model and they are very excited that someone like us, is building out a platform for pilots. We put a lot of thought into this, and we know we're not privacy experts at the local level. Thats why we try and be as transparent in our FAQ about 1) following FAA guidelines and 2) local laws, etc. We firmly believe in safety as our number one operating principle and there are thousands of pilots that have done both Client and Pano missions who an speak highly of us. 5. Also for privacy, even when pilots do have approval to shoot a property, we've seen issues with peripheral properties being in frame that never provide permission. Its just the nature of photography in general. We're not asking for pilots to fly over peoples homes for Pano Missions. Hence, front of property, and then back off to take the Pano. We also mention the idea of Google Street View. These google cars are taking 360 images of cities + streets. We liken it to this. There is no permission because its not needed. Imagine if a family is walking down the street, pulls out their iphone to take a "kodak moment" picture, but has to ask permission of surrounding business or homes because the are in frame. 6. We also understand there is a large public perception of drones and how a few rogue pilots can ruin it for the industry. We're trying our best to continually update our data and remove panos that have bad addresses. Sometimes, we get pilots emailing us that properties are off market now. Thats fine, but we're also selling off market data to data services companies. We're seeing pilots actually email us with new properties that aren't on our map, so that's been pretty amazing. 7. Having DJI as a 2x investor in us has been amazing and we're pushing for more stuff with them that will trickle down into the pilots on our platform. Again, our platform and business model is continually evolving and thats just the nature of the game in startup land. We're a small and nimble team and we're continually trying to improve both the pilot and customer experience.
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    We flew two missions last year in Coastal Trident, a law enforcement exercise to test port security for homeland defense. The first is a bomb on a boat and our ability to detect and pursue. The second was integrating one of our drones into first responders command and control and detecting nuclear material on a large ship. Both missions were successful.
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    Hi All, I wrote my first piece for DRONELIFE and had to name UAV Coach as one of the best communities. I'm really enjoying the discussions here and I hope more people catch on. Here are some others I recommend, as well. http://dronelife.com/2017/06/05/a-guide-to-the-top-drone-forums-and-facebook-groups/
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    Aloha UAV'ers! I'm new to this online community, and thought I'd introduce myself, and share a piece of recent work to get started. My name is Jonathon, owner of JBR LIFE Photography, located on the beautiful island of Maui. Primarily, I shoot real estate, although our company also specializes in family beach portrait shoots and the occasional wedding, which we contract out to other photographers. I keep the real estate and commercial media projects for myself The video I'm sharing today is a high-end property located on the south shore. These units sell for around $2-2.5M, which is not really an astronomical figure on this island, but higher than my personal home budget none the less. lol The camera line-up: Canon 7D mkII, Phantom 4, iphone 7+ (yep...4k vid) & GoPro Hero 5. Anyhow, I appreciate your time and views, and look forward to any feedback y'all have to give. All constructive critique is welcome too! Warmest Mahalo, Jonathon
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    Welcome to the Republic of California, where the inmates are running the asylum and they aren't happy unless they're telling everyone else how to live.
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    I'll add my 2 cents worth: I've done quite a few missions so far for Drone Base. I started with some basic Pano's that didn't have a guaranteed payout for several reasons: I wanted to get a feel for where a drone needs to be to get the shots they wanted. I need to build flight hours for legitimate jobs. I want to get more comfortable flying my Phantom in different locations. I have implemented my own Standard Operating Procedures and want to become efficient in following these so I'm not spending a ton of time planning a 15 minute job. I've flown 8 Pano's and received payment for 2. Doing this on the side means I am not that concerned about how much they pay, rather the experience and confidence gained. This has led to them contacting me for several client missions. They've asked me to fly 4 client missions. One was canceled a few days prior to my flight by their client. Another ended up being in Class C surface airspace and the client couldn't wait for FAA approval after I pointed its location out to them. The other 2 for which I did fly, I got paid for. As I gain more experience, I'll likely fly less Pano's - mostly to keep myself and flights skills fresh. I will add that several Pano's I uploaded resulted in their tool being unable to stitch together the Pano. Light level and time of day is very critical to determining if these can be done or not. So in the winter, I have a very narrow time of day when I can fly these Pano's to get optimal results. Also, uploads are painfully slow and you can only upload one job at a time. So when I go out and fly several Pano's, I'll upload one batch at a time while I do other stuff around the house.
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    Here is a quick pan I did of Long Beach, CA skyline...
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    Proposed Bill This bill aims to allow local jurisdictions such as states, counties, cities, towns the right to control airspace for sUAS purposes. Commercial art 107 and hobbyists will affected. What will this potentially cause? A concentric ring of laws that may contradict each other. Proposes 200 foot standoff from any private property as a minimum federal guideline. This will shut down closed set filming in close areas where you already have to get film permits. It will kill anyone wanting to do real estate shots. It will cause added confusion and extra bureaucracy to already arduous and complex set of rules and standards to operate in. It will make it harder or shops trying to comply while opening further opportunities for those wishing to ignore the rules. How can you have a conflicting guidance? Well you could have a job to fly in an area where you are inside 200 feet of someones property. By this law you would have to climb your aircraft to 200 feet AGL or higher. But it might be in controlled airspace where you have an ATC authorization to a max of 100 feet AGL because that might be the highest level you can fly at due to proximity of an airport. So in effect you cant fly. Local jurisdictions already have a method to regulate drone use. The loophole is the launch and recovery of them. And for certain operations such as closed set filming they can and have already established permits. Extra rules from different departments will further what acceptable and what is not. What really needs to happen, IMO? Congress needs to let the FAA codify model aircraft rules, treat them like ultralite manned aircraft in Part 91 but in the Part 107. This will make on simple set of rules that will not be arbitrary and piece milled sets of rules, guidance and advisories. What can you do? Write your two senators. I would suggest a hard copy as that will make more of an impression if their staff offices are being flooded with thousands of physical envelopes, versus simply just writing e-mails which are easier to ignore. If you stay silent it may happen. BTW, this is by partisan it is being co sponsored by Tom Cotton. Tom Cotton politically is on the far opposite fringe of the right political spectrum to Feinstein being on the far left. So this is not a liberal versus conservative issue.
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    Dear Friends: The proposal by Senator Feinstein is fraught with flaws and vagueness but unfortunately represents issues raised nationwide by many who are not fully informed. .Its not simply California. I wrote the following letter, mailed this weekend to the Senator.
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    Hey everyone, I just wanted to say that I appreciate all of the feedback. Ultimately, I decided to pass on the job as it was way too difficult to set out a clear plan to my client. Thanks for sharing this. I have looked through this before and there is literally nothing written here about drones. I really wish there was a clear resource put out from New York City about how to fly for commercials, films, and television legally. My first experience using this forum was pretty great. Thanks everyone who took the time to help!
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    This is kind of a religious debate where everyone gets angry and no one is right. It was never really about the $5 nor about registering your drone. If you were reregistering your drone there would have been a number for every drone, they were registering users. Then they made the database public. It had nothing to do with nor did it make drones safer of protect non user's privacy. This made drone operators who registered their drones second class citizens. Everyone should be for this ruling. You can be for this ruling and still support registration. The FAA cannot unilaterally impose its will on everything that flies. There's a process the FAA MUST go through to create rules. Also keep in mind the FAA does not make laws, only congress can make a law. There are several reasons for this. This is a general statement - Most of the companies and organizations who are against this ruling have been using the regulatory process as a way to gain a competitive or political advantage. The primary reason for the NPRM process is to prevent this sort of thing from happening. The FAA is prohibited from regulating commerce. They can not create rules that are arbitrary, capricious or promulgate any rule without going through the NPRM process. This process provides the public the opportunity to review and have input into the development of the rules that govern them. This prevents large companies from influencing the process in a way that regulates out competition. There are companies out there that don't respect or believe that individuals should be involved in this process. "VP of Policy & Legal Affairs Brendan Schulman said in a statement offered to TechCrunch. “I expect the legal issue that impedes this program will be addressed by cooperative work between the industry and policymakers.”
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    Hi everyone - I haven't been real active on this forum but I thought I would weigh in with what I do in regard to licensing, rights, charging etc. I'll try to make this a quick (I am not know for this!), succinct read. I license / sell use of my imagery in a couple of different ways. Almost always, regardless of the deal I own the imagery and am free to use it as I please. There are a few exceptions to this, let's start there. 1) Cases where I don't end up owning my imagery - Work for hire, very high price commercial jobs. This has happened a number of times in my still work when working for a major brand. In those cases the imagery that I created wouldn't have had recurring commercial value to me as it contained trademarked material. In these case I had a very high day rate, did my shooting, in some instances I edited and delivered in others I shot and delivered directly. In nearly all the cases I was able to show the work when proposing new work to clients but where I wasn't I could point to work and list clients like "Brands include, BofA, Crowdstrike, Nike, etc" 2) Someone mentioned flat rate - about half the work I do is architectural work. Both with traditional cameras and with aerial systems. Almost all of this is billed as a daily rate, plus all expenses and I give the client a direct use license that they and the direct tenants can use. The client knows that they can use the imagery for all their needs, forever, and I also can use the imagery or allow others to as needed. I have a handful of clients that I do this with and I prefer this. First my client knows that I am not coming to them to hassle over licensing (I don't have time for that), they pay a day rate that allows me make enough that I really only need to work a handful or two of days a year and they get exactly what they need. For these clients though, they have been with my for multiple years and I know that typically they are going to hire me for well into six figures of billable work a year. I charge them a day rate, travel, food, production, travel time, etc. They are really good size productions. 3) Licensing - I try to stay away from this except that I have had a number of images, sold through an agent to large travel brands that have either taken images I have my agent representing or commissioned. They have a strict license on usage and duration (and a number of other factors) and they pay for that particular use. Typically this image cannot (or similar images in a series) be used in a commercial use by me or any other clients during this licensed use. I first negotiated something like this on my own, it went well, no problems, I was happy with the fees, then I had an airline a number of years ago that had a new route from one side of the world to another and they wanted to use an image of mine. I went through an agent and that figured was 10X what I previously charged. This business is increasingly rare, but over the course of years has been a good piece of income. 4) Stock / Agencies - this has been terrible. over 10 years I have probably made somewhere in the range of $10k from ALL stock / microstock agencies. The prices have gone from multiple dollars / image / download to multiple cents. There are people that are doing well and they are putting up 10k+ images / year (or month for some) and are dedicated to it. If I was going to try and make it off stock I would get into a platform like offset where I am dealing more with companies in scenario 4 above. One this to be cautious of @Christopher Korody up above stated "Not even Getty and Corbis try to enforce anymore" this isn't true, they do. All the time, they have really sophisticated methods that have gone way beyond simple hashing and they enforce use a lot. Enforcement for them is much more lucrative than selling is. With enforcement they look for punitive damages and if you have received a letter from them then you have seen this. But that's simple, don't steal work. Hopefully this helps someone with some thoughts! Bill Nichols
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    Business is about money, so learn how you can make money for potential clients. What I mean is, don't waste time handing out business cards, perfecting your website, paying for AdWords, etc. These could all work, but they're not immediately focused on giving potential customers something that benefits them. It's one step away from spam. I built my photo business (on the ground, now expanding into drone photography) by: 1: Identify recently constructed or soon-to-be-finished buildings in your neighborhood/city 2: Research online - who is the architect, construction company, owner, developer, etc. Do they have great photos of their work yet? If they do, do they have aerial shots yet? THEIR BUSINESS DEPENDS ON SHOWING OFF THEIR COMPLETED WORK - if you can shoot aerial photos of their work, they will pay you for it because it makes them look good. Even small buildings can be worth $1m+, any 5+ story commercial property is likely worth $10m+. Architects want to look good for future clients, building managers need to lease space ($100k+ per year rent), owners want to show their investors their beautiful valuable properties (not show crappy cell-phone shots of what they spent millions of dollars on), etc. 3: Shoot a building as if you were hired. Pick a building that doesn't yet have aerial shots (if they existed, they'd be online, because every party wants to show off their best shots of their work). Retouch it and make it look as good as possible, again as if you've been hired to do it. 4: Send a nice email directly to the person in charge. Find the principal within the architecture firm who designed the building (you can find this if you dig around deep enough online), or at least the marketing department. Hi - here's some aerial photos I shot of one of your buildings. If you think these images would be helpful in your marketing efforts we can discuss licensing options. If you have any future projects finishing up soon I'd be thrilled to provide aerial photos to help your company look its best." So, you've put time into this (perhaps 2-5 hours), and there's no guarantee of a paycheck. Worst case scenario you have some great photos for your portfolio (don't shoot buildings that look bad, or in bad weather, or otherwise won't be portfolio-worthy at this stage). What you've done is send a business an opportunity to pay you to make them look better. Often the email I get back is "Fantastic! We hadn't even thought of shooting this project aerially, but these look great and help tell the story of the building. What are your licensing fees? By the way, we have five other projects in town that would benefit from this type of photo - can you come into the office and speak with us this week?" Sometimes no email comes back, sometimes they politely decline. But often a positive response with a desire to pay you money comes back. Also, if you've done your research, you know there's at least 3, maybe as many at 10 companies involved with the project you shot, so chances are very good at least one of them will want the images. Some parties are thrilled to pay $400+ per image. They have expensive websites, get paid well for their work, and depend on beautiful photos to sell themselves. Other parties (e.g. window installers, structural engineers, etc) may have rudimentary websites but would still be happy to pay $100 for a few nice shots. I'm an architectural photographer on the East Coast and I can confirm that all of my clients would love aerial shots of their projects, whether by me or someone else. The more beautiful and professional your photos the more opportunity you'll get, but for now any aerials are novel to many clients. Hope that helps! There's a million ways to get into this business, and this is simply the way that has worked for me. I wish you the best of luck!
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    I am going to throw in my 2 cents and give you the thoughts of an old retired guy. This is a serious decision, do a lot of research before you decide on a career path. First, in my humble opinion, I don't really see anyone making 60,-100k a year flying Phantoms and Inspires as a sole source of income. http://www.flyingmag.com/aircraft/drone-jobs-what-it-takes-fly-uav http://www.pri.org/stories/2011-10-13/north-dakota-training-pilots-unmanned-aircraft http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/17/politics/air-force-pilot-shortage/index.html The big money is in flying large package, multiple sensor fixed-wing aircraft (Predators, Reapers and others just now in R&D). There is a new school in North Dakota that trains civilians to fly the big birds, but I'm sure it is very expensive. Then you have to build up your hours. I don't see a lot of flight schools that will rent you a Predator like they do a Cessna(!) to build up your hours (aviation is all about hours in your logbook). If I were a young man today with an interest in flying UAVs and no college degree, being poor as I was, I'd enlist in the Army to train in MOS 15W. http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/transportation-and-aviation/unmanned-aerial-vehicle-operator.html Training is 23 weeks after completing basic training (9 weeks), held at Ft Huachuca, Arizona. If I had a 4-year degree I go for an Air Force officer commission (the Army uses enlisted soldiers to fly UAVs, the Air Force uses officers as pilots and enlisted as sensor operators) .You can count on eventually being deployed overseas but you'll be trained in the operation of several high dollar UAVs like the Predator and accumulate hours in your logbook, on the government's dime. Once you complete your enlistment you'll be in a perfect spot for a career with either a major aerospace company (General Atomics, Northrop, Grumman) or the government (ICE, CIA, Army-Air Force-Navy) as a civilian employee (operator or instructor). BTW, many civilian employers are including a 4-year degree and a commercial pilot certificate/instrument rated in their qualifications. But that is where the big money is. Certification and experience. https://www.ga-careers.com/job/-/-/499/2099342?apstr=%26codes%3DIIND https://www.airployment.com/jobdetails.php?id=3152d8c5ef9a5f45869febb7fb1cca74 https://www.airployment.com/jobdetails.php?id=7320ab7f545c86e8b8e3529a80d4f382 http://generalatomics.jobs/grand-forks-afb-nd/uav-pilot-instructor/D7C34B03EFA44C56B12C86DD6D5780E2/job/?vs=1398 I am sure others here will have useful tips to add. As you can see it is a decision that requires lots of research. Wish you the best...ah, to be young again...
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    Hi All, There have been a few posts here about tablets overheating when used with a DJI controller. I live in the Phoenix area and this has been a big problem for me. In temperatures above 85 degrees or so, my iPad would heat up after about 20 minutes and the video feed would get horrible - almost unworkable. I didn't know that the problem was my iPad overheating until my first one died. The battery expanded and popped the screen from the back. The folks at the Apple store told me it was from heat. They replaced my iPad (for $99) and a couple of days later I had another shoot. After 20 minutes I started having the problem with the video feed, then after about 40 minutes, the iPad showed an excessive heat warning and shut down. That's when I figured out that the video feed problem was from the heat. I switched out my iPad for my iPhone and kept filming, but my iPhone started to overheat too. I had already made all the recommended changes to settings to avoid overheating, so I needed another solution. What I came up with works great. I had a shoot a couple of days ago when it hit 120 degrees here in Phoenix (it was about 112 degrees at the time of my shoot), and the iPad stayed perfectly cool - no video feed problems whatsoever. There's a quick video that shows how it works. Below that are links for all the individual pieces that went into making it. I cut the aluminum sheet using a grinder and some metal shears, and then smoothed the edges with a Dremel. The rest is pretty self-explanatory. I just wanted to share this with everyone here. I'll try to answer any questions. Hope this helpful to someone. Video Link - https://vimeo.com/222775218/66e8436195 Pieces Hood - http://amzn.to/2tvX4z8 Aluminum Plate - https://thd.co/2tvUOaW Velcro - https://thd.co/2tvV9KZ Ice Packs - http://amzn.to/2tvIveS Chris
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    Traveled with my Mavic ( from Nashville) all across the Netherlands. This is some video from the Zaanse Schans area.
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    Hi, I’m Frank Foster, and I’m new to the drone community. Although I have never been a pilot, I do have a very extensive background in professional, industrial, and broadcast video production. My goal is to combine this experience, along with many years of working in the field with perhaps thousands of customers, to create a freelance aerial videography/photography business, probably in the real estate, construction, and event parts of the industry, at least as a start. To this end, I have begun studying for Part 7 exam. I have been investigating the emerging drone market for about six months now, and although I’ve already learned a great deal on my own, I would love to draw from the vast experience of my others, most of whom have been flying drones for a while, to share information and ideas. I look forward to communicating and collaborating with everyone in this forum. Thanks.
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    My friend Lauren, who regularly kicks but at Drone360, wrote a great piece about a little-known rule. If you're working on the farm, you want to read this. http://drone360mag.com/rules-regulations/2017/06/part-137-agricultural-aircraft-the-drone-certification-youve-never-heard-of#.WULTFyeruGA.facebook
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    I flew this week at a bridge construction site in San Diego near UCSD. Talk about red tape! Caltrans (state DOT) has their paperwork they want completed for flights (both pre and post) which encroaches on my rights as a P107 pilot. UCSD has their paperwork they want completed for flights (both pre and post) which encroaches on my rights as a P107 pilot. My company has our own internal paper they want completed for policies. 3 times the paperwork and it wasn't even in Class B, C, D or E airspace!!! Anyways, UCSD wanted me to contact the helipad located on their hospital nearby which they pointed out to me via skyvector.com. I looked up the facility manager phone on there and gave em a ring. Before I could even finish introducing myself, the person yelled - YELLED - at me: "“YOU ARE CALLING THE WRONG PEOPLE YOU NEED TO CALL SECURITY” and then transferred me to the operator. When I pointed this out to my contact at UCSD, they appreciated the heads up. When I mentioned I had already filed a UAS operating area for the site a week in advance, they felt that was enough. I guess where I'm going with this is, don't be surprised if the heli facility lights up when you call and that the UAS notification via 1800wxbrief might suffice for what you are doing. For what it's worth, as a P107 pilot, I'm not required to contact helipads as long as I'm in class G airspace.
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    Calling all of the city halls in my perspective work areas to verify there are no other cities with a drone ordinance so I don't run into another issue. The city of El Segundo, ca gave me some weird answers that didn't make sense. Drove down to their city hall, I ended up in front of the city business guy. He had a lot of questions for me as well. Turns out he regards me as a drone expert (don't know about that) and wants me to come speak in front of their city council meeting so that I can educate the body with insight. My fear is that I'll say something that triggers more regulation on our already overly regulated industry. Fingers crossed!
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    Thanks, everyone. I'm in the process of a cross country move so apologies for the tardiness on my responses. @R Martin, I've been enjoying your commercial mapping insights. For people upset at Facebook, from a business perspective, there are few better ways to drive traffic back to your website - if that's your objective. I share some work but not all of it.
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    This can become a hottly debated subject. Initially Airmap was a website where local business owners could pay a fee to restrict airspace around their businesses. Then they partnered with DJI to become part of their implementation of GEO fencing. If a smartphone app can provide better situational awareness for drone operators as long as its accurate that's great. If it becomes a trusted source of information and you pay for that service, that's the operators choice. But if drone manufacturers make this technology mandatory then they become a regulatory agency and they aren't authorized to do that. You are the PIC, you need to take any and all relevant sources of information into account when making your decision to fly. But you probably shouldn't rely solely on a cell phone app.
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    Have you read the license agreement? They own everything you post and can, and do, sell your content. I don't really care, I'm just not willing to do business with such an arrogant company. Forums on FB used to be that you couldn't go through he history of a thread. Not sure if it's still that way.
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    For me to get my name out there quicker in my local community Facebook is a necessity. I bit the bullet and have started "posting" there more. Not sure if it's generated much, but it is nice to see how many people view the photos and such. I am not a social media guy, but anymore it seems to be a requirement.
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    I don't think the FAA has updated this yet. There's a chance they've removed this question from their database, but if it shows up on your test I'd answer it as if the most recent court regulation didn't happen. They haven't updated their study guide or official materials anywhere else yet.
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    Thank you for the mention @Kara Murphy. Nice article.
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    Aloha Jonathon, This video is great. Good use of movement and transitions. The colors are great. I'm ready to move into this house. I'm going to be in Maui in a few days and I'm looking forward to finding some places to fly (without encroaching on the peace and tranquility that Maui offers). We have some friends that live on Maui and we have visited quite a few times over the years. Looking forward to getting some snorkeling time. Keep up the good work. Mahalo. Scott
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    I do not have anything against DJI products. I am very happy with my Inspire 1 and it does most of what I need, but, the range (or rather the hassle of having to constantly swap batteries) is a limiting factor for me. I manage something in the neighborhood of 892 acres spread out over a 25 miles area. I need something that I can fly a large chunk of that without it turning into another career. Glen is not going to do any mapping per se, so there really isn't any need for the RTK version of the Matrice. Depending upon price, it might be a good solution. Going outside DJI products, there are a few comparably priced that can match the Matrice I'm sure. Glen is going to need something that will support multiple sensors and it should be easy to reconfigure the UAS on the fly in the field should the mission change. My next purchase is going to be a FireFly 6 Pro and with the sensors is probably going to set me back around $21,000.00US (the version I'm looking at also has an RTK base station so technically I "should" be able to fly without GCPs and obtain decent accuracy (though I will gather tham just in case). In closing, I've just come to realize that a quad copter just doesn't have the redundancy built in should something go wrong. My next UAS will have a minimum of six rotors as extra insurance; not that I have had anything go wrong (up until the last flight this afternoon).
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    Hello everyone, I have spent 28ish years in the fire service with the last 15 in fire and aviation management with the US Forest Service specializing in incident command teams and media relations during large wildfires all over the US. Since leaving public service four years ago I have become a subject matter expert and contact point for both national and local media and because of my proximity to all the natural resources up here in rural Northern Arizona and the Four Corners region. I'm frequently asked to shoot video and provide imagery of news and weather situations up here. Oh and I'm a semi-well-known photog and small business owner up here too. I have been asked multiple times by local and federal agencies if I would be willing to do "drone work" for them. The answer had always been no. I will be testing for my 107 at Emory Riddle in Prescot, AZ soon thanks to Ground School. And I hope to put some recent HS graduates through the Ground School soon so they can come work for me. I currently own a Phantom 4 Pro. I use it to explore and shoot imagery. I am not interested in racing or speed mode so "Get off my Lawn"! I'm loving Drone Pilot Ground School so far and I appreciate the sense of community here! Eric Neitzel Show Low, Arizona
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    There's a line in the movie Caddy Shack, "the World needs ditch diggers too." The World needs "hall monitors" too. Sounds offensive but it isn't. obviously if you witnessed this activity first hand you were in close proximity and could have simply discussed their use of drones after practice. You might have learned that they had all of the appropriate authority to fly drones at practice or that he had no clue. I don't mind the accountability aspect of your concern, like you, I'm also a commercial drone operator, but I'd point out that even though we have the authority to fly drones at practice, take the precautions that we do and mitigate risk as much as we can, if we have an accident none of that will matter. It will be headline news somewhere and forum fodder for all the "I told you so's." As a community we need to work together to figure out ways to use drones in more ways, not come up with reasons we shouldn't use them. The "court of public opinion" should not be the measure of our success. More people died as a result of taking selfies last year, no one has been killed by or as a result of a civil drone accident in the past eight years (if ever). I think people might be surprised at how and the number of drones being used in sports without incident, yet one idiot crashes a drone at a MLB game and everyone hears about it. We're more likely to win the PR battle not by restricting the use of drones, but by demonstrating how we can use drones to solve real problems effectively and safely.
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    I feel your pain, and took a slightly different approach than most when building our clientele. The thing to remember is that, after the property sells, in the realtor's mind none of that beautiful media matters anymore. The home is gone, off the market, and they've moved onto the next. However, I choose to point out that their property marketing media is more than just selling the home. It serves as a sales tool to prospective seller clients, long after the initial home sale. Try that angle, and target the high volume realtors. Brokers are a great contact and endorsement tool, but they gotta be onboard with what you offer. Otherwise, they'll tell the realtors to not bother.
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    I would have passed on the job as well. Couldn't imagine trying to get a business going in NY City with current rules and regs.
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    Yes, they were a lot of work haha. Thanks for checking them out!
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    It's not permanent, it's a Temporary flight restriction in place until further notice and presumably for as long (or short!) as he remains President. The President has not been back to Trump Tower since being sworn in, but his wife and son continue to live there. I think you are correct about being in Class G but that is a complicated piece of airspace. I think I know the job you accepted and the 2 midtown properties are within the TFR zone. I lived there all my life until 5 years ago (before I had any drone interest) but I'm not up to date on any NYC local regulations. I guess the first issue would be getting the Airspace Authorization for the TFR zone. As far as NYPD goes, if they get involved in your flight, I don't think they will care about your Part 107, an Airspace Authorization from FAA, a letter from Santa, or anything else.
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    As a hobbyist pilot for 40 years, a private pilot of 35 years, a UAV pilot of 6 years - back into the USA from a country where nothing flies that is not registered and NO private JOY flying, as well, knowing and understanding the issues we have here in the USA regarding homeland security and preparedness, WITHOUT WANTING to add FEAR into the equation, CONCERN sounds better, we should understand and believe that registration is SMART and NOT a lot to ask of those who are willing to follow the rules. Holding people accountable is SMART and teaching YOUNG hobbyist to be responsible in my opinion is the only way to go .. therefore registration should be a MUST. I recently worked through an issue where I had applied for a flight zone waiver, (we all know how busy the FAA is and how hard they are working to handle the overwhelming numbers of registrants and waiver applications, from those trying to work within the regs.), for a project that required flying in one of the most sensitive Military airspaces.. a dedicated effort to achieve approval had failed on all fronts.. except when I spoke directly with the wing commander and on base FAA liaison, where they understood my needs to make a living and my dedicated respect for their position, we worked a time and dates that we could be allowed to perform a very low level mission to collect the data we need for the project. I made the the telephone call to initiate the flight as planned, I initiated and within a few minutes of deployment, I had military police, city police and CIS surrounding me and requesting (forcefully but respectfully) to land the UAV and put my hands up.. Now.. within just a matter minutes following, they had connected the dots of my registration number (visible on UAV) with my UAV license ( handed them) and then contacted their Flight control to learn that we were an authorized flight and I finished and all went away. The conversation i had with the officer in charge of CIS, was thanks for my cooperation and when I asked why was my flight not registered to all services preventing their need to respond.. he replied that they have several hundred incidents from unauthorized, hobbyists trying to fly near the base that they have no way of knowing WHO is WHO and until they checked my registration (EVEN AS I FLEW exactly the plan submitted) were they able to stop being ON DEFENSIVE and change their own mission TO AWARENESS. We need to have registration and I am fully forward thinking to tracking devices (transponders / ID) to keep our skies safe and people on THE LEVEL.. Lastly, then off my soap box.. I am openly concerned abut ALL of the Hobbyist that will collect a fee for using their NON-REGISTERED UAV as a source of income, and likely will not have proper insurance and likely skating over some of the Part 107 regulations we must follow.. and if their UAV is caught in an illegal situation or operation that turns destructive and or causes injury such as responding to a fire or police incident, they lose the UAV and are not held responsible because they are not registered.. We need to know as a public airspace - all that flies over our heads and whomever is at the controls is qualified and certified..
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    Really great to see a constructive debate on the topic. I'm new to the forum and I'm enjoying it already!
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    Drone Deploy is fine if you are not planning on using GCPs and you don't want to mess with learning the software. Basically, they do all the processing for you and a little cleanup of the 3D aspect. The pricing isn't bad as a temporary solution for a full package sans GCPs at around $3000.00 a year. You have a lot more control over your projects with Pix4D both up front in establishing GCPs and checkpoints and in the final product including a lot of additional outputs like contour lines, DSMs, DTMs, point clouds, ect...For this, you do have the additional task of learning how to use the software but you also have the ability to spend a lot of time on the back end cleaning up your project data to make it more attractive. There are a lot of pricing options; we went with a perpetual license for $8700.00 with a ~$900.00 per year maintenance fee. Over a five year lifespan, it was a little more expensive BUT it runs on my workstation under an OpenGL environment without any need to upgrade. You can also look at Correlator3D by Symactive which I had really high hopes for but the hardware requirements and our purchasing bureaucracy dashed those hopes. Over a five year lifespan it is actually cheaper (~&2000.00 cheaper) even taking into account that I had to buy yet another GPU that would run it (FirePro W7100 or W9100) that operates under an OpenCL environment. One drawback is that the available coordinates systems you can choose between to run your projects under is pretty limited but I'm sure you can script that and resolve that issue. Bottom line is Drone Deploy is good for casual use without much accuracy unless you have a lot of extra cash to spend on adding GCPs to each map (we produce at least 200-1500 map sets of various projects through a fiscal year). Otherwise, you need to dole out a little more money up front and learn how to use the software (or hire a photogrammetrist).
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    Look at RT Aviation Specialty Insurance. Hull and liability on our Inspire 1 is running around $1400.00 a year. Welcome to the forum! VeriFly is a temporary solution on a per-flight basis.
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    Well my pro bono work paid off. I have been flying a field nearby my house and built up a relationship with the farmer. This past week I sent him a weed detection report I wrote for his field. He and his brother found it interesting enough to stop by and talk about what all I can provide. They want me to fly two of their smaller fields initially (only a total of 155 acres) bi-weekly from June 1st to end of August. This comes out to about 8 flights for each field. All was going well until we started talking price. One of the brothers wanted $10/acre for the entire flight. After a quick calculation in my head as I hadn't thought of price for the entire year, but only per acre per flight. I realized that this was way lower than what I was going to propose. I let them know that it couldn't be done for that cost (1.25/acre). The other brother was more comfortable with $15/acre or $1.88/acre. I said I would try and get close to that number since this is new and hopefully we can do more fields together as they find benefit. I know I shouldn't sell myself short, but don't want to lose my first customers for a few hundred dollars one way or another, but I am going to write the bid so its an even 2.00/acre. Sound reasonable? I know pricing is going to be different for everyone, but commodities aren't all that great, but I still have to think about my overhead. I feel if I try to make it all up on these two fields I would lose customers, but don't want to set that bar any lower.
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    Sorry, I more replied to the responses and not your question. Almost everyone starts in drones as a hobby, I did, but there's a huge difference in flying drones as a hobby and using them professionally. Regarding your concern about why a farmer wouldn't want to do this themselves there's a lot of reasons they might, don't give them another one. If you show up to a job with a DJI anything and use an cell phone app like drone deploy, the farmer doesn't need you. He/she probably still do because non of this stuff works as advertised, but the farmer doesn't know that yet. If you want to work with farmers then you need to know a lot about farming. Farmers aren't really interested in drones. If you don't know what an NDVI means, and I don't mean being able to provide the written report but can you ground truth it, then the only value you add is that you can fly a drone. If you show up with a DJI so can the farmer.
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    Hi Chris, It may be a good idea to create a map of your area that shows where the airspace restrictions are, and how long of a delay can be expected depending on which air space they are in. This would be a great resource to provide your regular clients, and they would see your branding each time they referred to it keeping your business at the top of their mind. It would also be a really great resource to put on your website and share on social media. I would bet it would generate significant traffic on your site as people look for your services and maybe get you some back links which is very important for SEO. Yes your competitors might use it (make sure your branding is on it), but if you are the first one to get it out there it helps establish you as the local expert.
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    One thing we highly suggest here in the US is for photographers to join the local board of realtors as an affiliate member and attend networking events. The same thing with our Chamber of Commerce and home builders associations. There is nothing more effective than getting out there and shaking hands. I would agree with Alan the biggest cost is time. If you have a good website and a decent budget you could put some money into search advertising (Google Adwords) or social media advertising. You can target people who are actively looking for what you are offering with search advertising, and those whose interests make them likely candidates to be your clients on social media.
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    Whoa there. Just found this: http://thedroneracingleague.com/fpv-simulator/ It's a free FPV racing simulator. I just bought the FrSky® Taranis X9D transmitter for $230 on eBay, and I plan to start training. Might be a while before I hit the pro FPV racing circuit, but I'll give it a go. Who's with me? Want to train together?
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    I'm investigating incorporating UAV's into operations an maintenance actives for renewable plants and there does not really seem to be any companies out there that offer a total solution as a service. Wondering what others have seen on the market place? Looking for solutions that include everything from flying, analysis, presentation to archival storage. It all needs to be spatially oriented with strong GIS capabilities. Right now this seems to be whats missing in the industry. Any advice?
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    I was looking for a place in this forum were you guys share your latest footage - showing how amazing the world looks from above. I want to get tips on better filming etc. Is there a forum here for that. Also what's the best 4K edit tool? my free Windows Live Movie maker can't do 4K which is a shame as the DJI I fly has that neat little 4K camera build in. Here's my snow film from VA after the 36" of snow at the weekend:
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