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  1. The interesting parallel I thought of was the Xray I had taken this week. That photograph was taken by someone unqualified to render a decision or diagnosis. She was only there to collect data for the expert. When I am actually surveying or measuring anything? And what about photos from the ground of a building? How is THAT different?
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  2. If the drone operator is providing a ground surface file which elevation contours can be derived from, the operator should be a licensed drone pilot (FAA Part 107) and a licensed surveyor in most states. If you are just taking photos for Real Estate presentations, you should be FAA Part 107 licensed but should not need to be a licensed surveyor. I am a FAA Part 107 pilot and a licensed surveyor in many states, including Michigan. I don't make up the rules but must abide by them. The creation of ground surface files using a drone is not a simple matter and when done incorrectly can h
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  3. Congrats on your first drone...they are a blast. Mainly fly safe and manage your batteries to get the most out of them. Each model is different and I don't know your particular model, but on my DJI drones I store the batteries at about 60% charge, never charge them when they are hot, and watch for swelling/cracking etc. Your owner manual should have some good guidelines, and YouTube is your friend Happy flying!
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  4. Hi Everyone! For any Part 107 renewal questions, feel free to check out this article: https://www.dronepilotgroundschool.com/recurrent-knowledge-test-part-107/ Please let us know if you have any questions! Best, Chase
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  5. Has anyone taken it yet? Do you actually need a 100%? Likely will take it tomorrow as I lapsed a few days ago....and can update this thread afterwards. -Adam
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  6. I don't think your the confused one...
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  7. Hi Zacc, who IS the Navy? Who speaks for the Navy? Part of what started this wild goose chase was a FOIA which received the logs from those on duty that night. Its not that "The" Navy doesn't want to disclose the information, they probably don't think there's anything to disclose. A lot of Media organizations want to create notoriety for themselves by generating this kind of clickbait. I don't have the answer but I sure don't think they were the Chinese spying on us. They don't need to use drones and if they did where did they launch and recover them from? How many drones could f
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  8. Snowshoesurveyor, don't get me wrong. I totally respect licensed professional engineers, surveyors, etc. and understand the concerns about using data incorrectly. It can be a safety or a legal issue. But every state has different survey laws and boards and we all know each can have differing levels of opinions at those levels depending on state and local issues and even political or business influences. It would be better if both service industries came together to establish national guidelines vs taking the issues to the courts where you can lose all control. I totally think this will co
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  9. I have provided topographical data derived by means of photogrammetry to licensed surveyors. I am not a licensed surveyor myself and I was not under the surveyor's direct supervision. However, the photogrammetry was referenced to ground control placed by the surveyor and they used means of checkpoints to proof the data that I provided in order to use it in their work. I'm curious what you think of this scenario?
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  10. Folks, As I stated before, I believe that the rules need to be clarified to determine what is surveying when it comes to drone photography. The problem comes when unlicensed people perform drone photography that is used for the purpose of creating a contour map which is used for land development purposes. This work has potential impacts on the general public and main duty of the professional boards of licensing is to protect the public. One of the uses of these maps is to show storm water drainage so that the drainage does not impact neighboring parcels anymore than which already nat
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  11. Hmmmmmmm. So if I take a panoramic photo on my iPhone that stitches it together in photogrammetry and the metadata from the GPS in the phone is embedded in the photo, then it can't be sold? What is the difference from drone photogrammetry? What about Zillow importing KML municiple GIS files for their property boundaries into the Zillow app and displaying it on a google map engine? Is Zillow then surveying since the are projecting property boundaries on a map? Mapping a golf course and using the GPS metadata to compute basic surface area measurements to calculate the amount of fert
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  12. That's hilarious. Thank you for that. The Board of Registration of Engineers and Land Surveyors IS the authority that defines what Surveying is. So they are the authority on what is and is not a survey. Like I said earlier, It sounds like sour grapes, if you want to by a drone and then provide work products that require a license, get the license, or change the law. Suing the board for not allowing competition is comical on its face, and the argument that their work product is Free Speech is almost more ridiculous. I could say... where does some standard committee get off telli
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  13. You can complain about how its unfair and why can't I do what I want, and how government can't tell me what to do, all you want, even argue taking pictures is free speech (I think that's their #2 argument). BUT Its simple you have three choices: 1. Stop violating the law 2. Change the law 3. Obtain a Land Surveyors' License. (mic drop)
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  14. I am a licensed surveyor in three states, and a Part 107 drone pilot. I read the article and what seems to be their main point in their complaint is Board is not allowing Competition. The Board is established to Protect the Consumers of the end product by ensuring the people producing it know what they are doing. You can split hairs in the legalize all you like but that is the intent. Its seems to me its similar to buying your own prescription pad writing some information on it and sign your name. There is nothing wrong with doing that for your own amusement but you just can't pass it
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  15. From a public safety perspective I am curious to see if state Boards will be suing law enforcement agencies and fire departments in the future for creating orthomosaic imagery and point clouds for their investigations. They are not commercial agencies and they are not selling their ‘products’ to anyone nor are they using the data to determine boundries or contour lines. From a commercial perspective, as long as the entity makes it clear that their product is not for use in boundry determinations or other legal actions that licenesed surveyors are required for then this is a clear overrea
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  16. Any judgment arising from this suit could have an impact worldwide on many jurisdiction's definition of what constitutes formal surveying, as performed by a licensed person, and a UAV pilot gathering "supporting" information on behalf of a "willing" agent. The UAV pilot's skill as well as the quality of the photographs obtained, while obviously important, would generally only make up a single tool in a much wider armoury of informational tools an agent might utilise; as in forensic analysis, as in the management of an industrial activity, as in the protection of critical infrastructure. Perhap
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  17. For people who enjoy this type of “espionage” have fun with it but don’t confuse anything CNN reports with reality. Every year the federal government exercises the EAP for first responders and for all of the agencies responsible for protecting our deep water ports. This exercise includes things like smuggling in nuclear material, biohazards, drugs, human trafficking as well as accidents in the harbor that might block shipping or present a hazard to nearby communities. These are extremely well run experiments that can last up to three months. Sometimes commercial, naval and coastguard
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  18. Even providing surface files from which any spatial data can be derived is not land surveying. Plenty of publicly available data from the USGS, online, for example.
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  19. Acquiring imagery is not land surveying. It can be definitely a useful part, but it is not conducting a licensed survey. My drone flights are conducted with the objective of doing photogrammetry i.e. precision aerial photography. I know of no state licensure program for a photogrammatrist. Even if I collate all the spatial data and generate maps, it is not surveying. Greg V. makes a very salient point that an x-ray technician is not a radiologist and has no business practicing medicine. But, guaranteed, the radiologist can't effectively do their jobs without an image technician.
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  20. While this is not as bad as that racist law in Georgia, it IS an infringement upon the rights of us drone operators to try to stop us from assisting real estate agents in selling their listings. I specialize in this type of drone photography and it's bad enough that we have to take that stupid Part 107 test for $150 every two years (e.g., why do we need to know what the markings on airport runways mean when we can't fly with 5 miles of an airport? Duh!). This ruling could determine whether those of us who are licensed to take drone photos for commercial use (at a great cost in time and mon
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  21. I had this problem on my new Holy Stone HS510 drone - it wasn't recording HD video to the little TF memory card while flying it using the controller (no phone connected - so no Android compatability issues possible) - and kept on saying the TF card wasn't formated, even though it was. I was using a flashy new 128gb memory card, so instead I pulled an old 16gb TF memory card from a dead surplus phone of mine, then reformatted all the android app junk off the 16gb memory card inside my PC, making sure it was 32 FAT formatting as this forum suggested ... result, the Holy Stone drone now reco
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  22. That’s a useless hypothetical question because the answer is different for every situation. It is totally possible to descend into the flight path of a helicopter, the same is true on any direction you turn. GA aircraft aren’t going to appear out of nowhere, you should be able to see and hear them at more than half a mile away. Most of the time when I see a plane or helicopter I continue doing what I’m doing. If the distance starts to close I usually just stop and hover until I can determine the best way to proceed. The earlier you know where the plane is relative to the drone the lon
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  24. @ Alan Thank you. My goats will appreciate it when I locate them with the UAV and then feed them some goodies. I've flown my UAVs auto our ranch in the middle of nowhere but being within 5 miles of a small airport on our other property, I only feel comfortable flying with a tethered UAV and I'll check the apps you suggested.
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  25. As suggested by @Av8Chuck a custom built drone would likely be the best solution for this application. There are a couple of open source flight stacks that could be used. https://ardupilot.org https://px4.io These flight stacks provide the stabilization, navigation and guidance for the drone and can be programmed with "missions" consisting of waypoints which in your case would of course be the ground sensors. Configuration, mission planning and flight monitoring is also provided by open source software running on a laptop, tablet or phone. https://ardupilot.org/planner/
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  26. Kind of depends on what country they’re located in.
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  27. I mostly agree with Chuck's assessment. With a 1.5 kg payload, you would need at least a M200 series if going with DJI. You could easily do it with an M600 pro or M300. A custom built unit should also be on the list. The total distance needed to travel while carrying that payload will also be a factor. Can it be multiple short hops or does it need to be a longer out and back.
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  28. The challenge with using a DJI drone is that they are designed and tuned for a specific payload, they work exceptionally well if it does what you need but doesn't work well at all if you try and use it for something it wasn't built for. The connector for Mavic2Pro, computer and WiFi router weigh approximately three and a half pounds plus you need power. You might be able to get 5V from the MAVIC, if you need more power you'll need to add an external battery which will likely put you at almost four pounds making the MAVIC2Pro not a good candidate for this mission. If you want to st
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  29. Really!? You know, some cynical people might take this opportunity to give you a pretty hard time but not me, I’m above all that...
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  30. Interesting. How do you know? Nope. This family must be something special. Any reason you posted this in the FPV racing section? Are they government racing drones? I've never seen "plane shaped" racing drones. Since the harassment is so common, can we see some pictures?
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  31. several large and small drones in meridian idaho have been harassing a family up to the point where it is considered stalking. the family has even caught the drones hovering right outside of windows at their home. anyone know who to report this to? especially since they seem to be government drones. what can be done and has anyone else experienced this?
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