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  1. I do not see a problem. By using the data they are responsible which is likely why they checked the control points. The problem with the original scenario, is that we do not know the back story. It seems to me there must of been something that happened that triggered a complaint. Then after an investigation a letter is sent. That is the missing information that is vital to making a judgement. We all need to be able to make a living doing what we love to do. But there are rules and limits that need to be adhered to. In the case of drone photography/surveying, the rules need better definition or we need to understand there will be these types of issues. Understand that in many state, a land surveyor has spent at least 4 years of schooling for a Bachelor of Science degree and another 4 years minimum of field training to be able sit for a Land Surveyor's exam of which there are two National exams and a state specific exam. So understand, we may be a picky about folks that have not gone thru the process picking off the "low fruit". Just saying
  2. Folks, As I stated before, I believe that the rules need to be clarified to determine what is surveying when it comes to drone photography. The problem comes when unlicensed people perform drone photography that is used for the purpose of creating a contour map which is used for land development purposes. This work has potential impacts on the general public and main duty of the professional boards of licensing is to protect the public. One of the uses of these maps is to show storm water drainage so that the drainage does not impact neighboring parcels anymore than which already naturally occuring. An inaccurate map can lead designers to make poor decisions, which can have undesired consequences on the neighbors. Does licensing prevent inaccurate maps, no but the likelyhood is lessened and you have a license that can be revoked. I have no issue with drone photography being used for most other purposes and would not report the activity to a licensing board. However, if you are going to make a map with contours for developments, I definitely would report the activity to the licensing board. I would recommennd that if you are interested in doing that type of work, find a local surveyor to work with. You will find we are not such bad folks.
  3. VictorBravo77 Regarding the my field crew, I, as a licensed professional, am responsible for the actions, measurements and training of those people. They do there work under my direct supervision. If something is wrong, I am the responsible party and risk losing my license to practice. The x-ray technician is likely certified for the work that they do and is likely doing that work under the supervision of licensed professional who would be responsible for the x-ray technicians work. I think you all mis-understand, I agree that there is large amount of drone photography that should not be regulated by the Land Surveying Board, such as real estate photography. The problem arises in the area of mapping of the land, in particular for the determining contours, This is a gray area in the law. If you read the law regarding the areas surveyors allowed to practice in, you will see that mapping land falls within their realm. This is not just in Michigan by the way. But, I also understand that Google Earth is also used for mapping purposes. I'm pretty sure surveyors were involved with USGS mapping. So my suggestion is, that if you want to do mapping work, get a good relationship with a licensed surveyor.
  4. If the drone operator is providing a ground surface file which elevation contours can be derived from, the operator should be a licensed drone pilot (FAA Part 107) and a licensed surveyor in most states. If you are just taking photos for Real Estate presentations, you should be FAA Part 107 licensed but should not need to be a licensed surveyor. I am a FAA Part 107 pilot and a licensed surveyor in many states, including Michigan. I don't make up the rules but must abide by them. The creation of ground surface files using a drone is not a simple matter and when done incorrectly can have costly impacts to the client, adjacent land owners and the general public. I believe the rules need to be clarified to make a distinction between Drone surveying applications and Drone photography.