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  1. Hi and welcome to the forum. Most drone related shows just preach to other drone related businesses how great they are. If your business is related to other drone related businesses using your services then there's AUVSI. If you're looking to learn and network with potential customers then going to their respective trade shows, construction, utilities, oil & gas, etc., would probably be a better use of your time.
  2. I’m not sure if this survey adequately takes into account the target audience. It appears to be targeted at consumers. It also doesn’t seem to account for the experience level of the person taking the survey. Curious what your hoping to accomplish with the survey.
  3. There’s a lot of hype about using drones for detecting COVID19. Anyone knowledgeable about thermal sensors knows this is BS. Here’s a well written expose about the limitations of using drones and exposing it for the hype that it is. https://slate-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/slate.com/technology/2020/05/fever-detecting-drones-coronavirus-draganfly-research.amp
  4. https://dronexl.co/2020/05/20/dji-game-of-drones-culture/
  5. Chances are there’s nothing wrong, when you chop the throttle it drops like a rock. DJI takes over the throttle curve so the drone hovers at 50% even if it doesn’t. You could check RCGroups.com, there’s a lot of FPV flyers there that can help.
  6. Welcome to the forum. It really depends on which flight controller your using. If you let go of the throttle on a DJI then the sticks got to neutral (centered) and the drone hovers. On more advanced controllers when you chop the throttle the drone falls. Its supposed to do that. Had you flown FPX multirotors before you maiden flight?
  7. I realize this is a long post but this is a serious topic. I have said many times that as a result of the DoD ban on DJI this industry was going to go through significant changes. I get that people are reluctant to challenge the prerogatives of DJI but whether the changes are a result of what I have been saying or the economic shutdown, the World is changing. I've been on several conference calls with what some consider industry leaders and all of them are discussing the changes that are happening now. Although they might not agree with what the changes are or what to do about it, they are at least acknowledging there's a change. This thread is simply a response to Zack's article. There's a lot there to choose from but the important thing to keep in mind is that the changes that are occurring will be influenced much more by serious debate than they will be by purchasing a drone and shooting some property videos. You can do both, but there is scant debate on this forum. If you don't agree with what I've written and you think I'm full of crap, then say so, but make a compelling case for why you think that way. If you don't understand the debate ask questions and hopefully the more experienced members will share their experience. Either way, don't be a cheerleader standing on the sidelines waiting for something to cheer about.
  8. Nicely done. Keep this video, it will be worth something someday. In normal times, even when the park is closed there are people in it cleaning, doing maintenance etc.. Here’s what I hope you’ll take as constructive criticism. During a lot of the dissolves the motion started on the second clip (what you were dissolving to) in the middle of the dissolve. If the motion had begun prior to the dissolve the video would flow much better. Your video is such a stark reminder of what we’re all going through. So with tongue in cheek I thank you for sharing..
  9. Very nice. Really like the pacing, the viewer gets a real sense of the property in a very short video. Made you using a slider of just walking the property with a gimbal? Looks great.
  10. Welcome to the forum. There’s a great online drone class here: https://uavcoach.com that will answer all your questions. It’s a very good source of knowledge even if your not planning on getting your Part107. An important thing to keep in mind about this type of corriculum is that it organizes the information in a very useful way. Just asking questions on forums will get you a lot of “expert” opinions that might land you in trouble.. mess what I did there — “land” you in trouble... I crack myself up, more drone humor
  11. Short and sweet. Have you done another property in this complex? Most of the people carping about 8-bit are idiots that know little if anything of what to do with 10-bit. It’s just another hyped buzzword. The A7s are great cameras for the money and really up the production value for lower budget production. Viva 8bits!
  12. Welcome to the forum. Great website, videos and pictures. Nice Job! I have many questions but I’ll let others welcome you before blasting away... @JBR LIFE Photography I heard this guy wants to come to your island paradise, better watch out. @Msdi, I’m joking. We do that occasionally. But seriously you guys should talk. You can see many of his property videos on the photography for real estate thread. I look forward to learning and seeing more Of what your doing.
  13. A couple of observations, I don’t read the entire website Justin watched the video. How do they define your territory? Drone jobs are never next door. What do you get for your $20K? I’m guessing there 97 percent success rate for certification is for part107? Nothing great about that claim. Mentorship in small business can be helpful but is really dependent on your relationship with the mentor. There have been a lot of websites like this that make these types of claims. Not sure how they compare to PrecisionHawk? I have nothing bad to say about them, I’m mostly expressing my own bias and skepticism against these types of claims. They certianly know how to use Adobe AfterEffects!
  14. Are U.S. Drone Companies Ready to Replace DJI? What the American Security Drone Act Means for the U.S. Drone Industry I believe that these two questions asked together conflate two distinct issues and the question about replacing DJI is a false narrative. No company needs to replace DJI. DJI can live long and prosper in the U.S despite the American Security Drone Act in the consumer market. But if you're planning on using DJI technology in the DoD or for any type of critical infrastructure then there needs to be an alternative to DJI and there’s no good reason that can’t be a U.S based UAV manufacturer. Like most professional tools in any other industry professional UAVs will be much more focused on specific applications or put another way, purpose built solutions. Commercial drones have been used enough now so we can move beyond those hobbyists and prosumers who have pushed their way up from the bottom. Before I get a ton of hate mail, I’m referring to the early adopters who single handedly overcame the natural resistance to adopting technology that still contained a high degree of complexity and risk. For that, they deserve a lot of credit. The problem is, the success in the early market has provided the emerging commercial market with unreliable indicators of success. The result is that the commercial market has stalled in the chasm, that place between enthusiastic early adopters and mainstream pragmatists who think early adopters are idiots and where start-ups go to die. This is exacerbated by the FAA’s lack of understanding of the unintended economic consequences of their regulatory actions. I believe the DAC is limiting differentiation and does not accurately represent the future direction of the commercial UAV market. Also, the rate of technological change in this nascent industry is greatly over exaggerated, it’s only just the beginning. The gating factor for growth isn’t who or where the drone is manufactured. It has little to do with the drone and more to do with the transformation from analog to digital engineering. What is it going to take for this market to get to the other side of the chasm where success is directly correlated to commercial operators’ ability to field a complete solution for a specific niche? Markets are created, they don’t just appear out of nowhere. Many of the start-ups in the emerging “drone” market worked to overcome problems by using standard methods and technology that they were familiar with at the time. Multirotors were the result of the confluence of several technologies; online forums such as DIY, the democratization of the cell phone, Intel’s RealSense, and open-source flight controllers. The Chinese may have some IP in the manufacturing process itself, but very little, if any of the IP used in the design of the “drone” is Chinese. DJI’s sense and avoid is a “clone” of Intel’s RealSense (a derivative of Movidius), their original flight controller came from OpenPilot. Define “clone” anyway you like, the point is not to accuse anyone of misappropriating technology, it is to demonstrate that there is a lot of innovation in drone related technology outside of China. Much of it here in the U.S. First generation drone manufacturers focused on development of components for primary flight control, anything beyond that became vertically integrated. But for the next generation of “intelligent” UAVs to solve important problems – the ones lives depend on, requires a much better understanding of the applications needed to provide a more direct linkage between analytical technologies and real-world problems. Key to providing accurate and repeatable aerial data solutions is coupling professional analysis tools with precision navigation and control systems. Consider that the Skydio2 is a real contender. A U.S. manufactured “intelligent” drone that customers consider a real alternative to DJI’s Phantom and Mavic 2 Pro. Ultimately, this isn’t just about the UAV, but in order to build a commercial UAV market that people believe in and stakeholders want to invest in, they need to believe that there is a broad trend towards aerial remote sensing where the data collected becomes hugely valuable and customers can build a platform of business on top of it. In the early market U.S. manufacturers were faced with the question, “how can our products meet potential customer needs better than off the shelf Chinese drones?” That’s a tough question to answer when potential customers understand so little about how drones might benefit them. The only thing customers initially cared about was how cheap they were. At that time, it wasn’t as important for the customers to understand the benefits as it was for U.S manufacturers to demonstrate how our technology enabled them to achieve their purchasing objectives. As with most things there’s no simple, right answer, but whatever the answer, it needed to serve as the building blocks for determining the entire value-chain. It’s easy to look at the applications of drones horizontally, where one drone is designed so that everyone can use it, but our experience suggests that won’t work. DJI’s work extremely well if they're used for what they were designed for. But because of its vertical integration DJI cannot deliver a complete value-chain, its mission profile is too narrow so if the customer wants to accomplish something different than what it was designed for, they need to modify the mission in order to accommodate the capability of the drone. This is antithetical to a complete value-chain. There are several articles on LinkedIn about the U.S. division over the Chinese drone ban. Why the division? In the early market U.S manufacturers tried to work with customers in an ad hoc way on their ability to add value to UAVs core technology such that drones became useful in a given application. But customers didn’t want that, they wanted the easy button, low barrier to entry and they wanted it cheap. There have also been a lot of articles by many of the early DJI enterprise customers regarding how difficult it is integrating DJI products as part of a successful UAV program. So now instead of being divided about the ban, CUSTOMERS should unite in favor of it. Stop spending money on ways to get around the ban and start spending it with U.S. companies who can provide you with a purpose-built solution made up of a complete set of products and services needed to fulfill your company's compelling reason to buy, not some Chinese company’s compelling reason to sell. Our success as an industry is directly correlated to our ability to field a complete solution for customer segments that need to solve serious problems. Just about every major infrastructure we depend on is below the standard necessary to sustain our growing population. That’s a compelling problem. The ban is resetting the bar. U.S. manufacturers can develop UAVs that are open, extensible and easy to reconfigure for a wider mission profile but they need input and commitment from the customer. By customers and manufacturers partnering, we can work through all the elements, thereby demonstrating our understanding of the different segments, and together overcome the resistance to adopting a digital engineering workflow. So, there are tons of news stories and articles about the benefits of UAVs but no one seems to be making very much money with them. “Hello!” Welcome to the chasm. In order to get out of the chasm U.S companies need to create a set of assumptions around which a whole product solution can be built. To do that we need U.S customers to work with manufacturers and developers to better define the requirements. Prior to the ban on Chinese manufactured drones U.S. companies might have had time to gather more focused market data, but now they must act quickly so they need to approach the decision of manufacturing UAVs from a different vantage point. That will be difficult because U.S. customers only know DJI. So, U.S. manufacturers will need to rely on “informed intuition” rather than a more traditional “analytical” approach. This does not sit well with investors. This is important because in the past startups emphasized opportunity based on revenue and stakeholders evaluated them based on that data. Although there are a lot of claims regarding the size of the “drone” market, that data supports a yet undeveloped concept, so this new emerging market depends more on promised future data rather than present data. The trouble is that most of the discussion about the ban and the commercial drone market in general, has been focused on defining market segments, agriculture, first responders, industrial inspection for example, and validating ‘drones” to meet their needs. However, most investors regard business results, not validation, as the measure of progress. Unlike an established market, where a product category itself is the reference point, an early or developing market can be thought of more as the customer’s market, not a product market. So, although UAVs effectiveness in the commercial market is not nil, it is adjunct. So, it’s much more likely that what supplants DJI in the commercial market in the U.S is not a UAV manufacturer at all but a consolidation of companies around a technology with a compelling must have proposition. A tightly vertically integrated drone cannot compete in a horizontally integrated ecosystem. The problem for DJI is that their current value chain is not capable of delivering order-of- magnitude benefits while creating sufficient barriers to entry. You can do one or the other, but not both. This type of ban should have happened decades ago before the U.S. lost its culture of manufacturing. Another important issue to investors is making whatever they invest in proprietary. How do U.S manufacturers make UAVs proprietary? If you think of a UAV as just an unmanned thing that can fly, then yes anyone can build a “drone,” but an important distinction between a “consumer drone” and a commercial UAV is that a commercial UAV needs to be defined around a must-have value proposition. The application of the UAV is where U.S developers can drive value and build a moat. As a result of the ban the opportunity to manufacture UAVs is at an inflection point, we only need to look at the beginning of the automotive industry for a comparison to understand that there are similar barriers to entry for manufacturing UAVs than there were for automobiles in the early 1900’s. Cars have wheels, an engine, steering wheel, four seats, lights etc., all the details got better but fundamentally the market fit for cars has not changed much in a hundred years. The number of car manufacturers in early 1900 grew from one or two people working in a barn, building a couple of cars a year to more than 2500 by 1915. In 1915 there was a steep drop-off in the number of manufacturers because the complexity reached a level where they couldn’t build everything in the barn. Bolts, nuts, screws, wiring, were all custom made. Standardization in the mechanical industry didn’t happen in Germany with DIN until 1917, and in the U.S in 1918 with ANSI. This standardization is what led to automated production lines and large scale innovation. That’s pretty much where manufacturing UAVs in the U.S is today. Very few U.S. UAV manufacturers have a (automated) production line. We can’t have a true American alternative until a production line can be developed that can scale to a point where it is actually relevant as an industry. So, what would the ANSI equivalent for manufacturing UAVs be today? Open Source. Open Source is the agile approach to standardization. By developing a reference implementation in open source while concurrently defining the requirements, you end up with something that’s shared, that’s common, that’s a known quality, without the full overhead of the standardization process. Once the reference standard is proven to work, it becomes the de facto standard. Probably one of the most challenging problems to solve for open source development is the validation of the solution in real world conditions and the relationship between the customer and developer. Once again, this is where the ban levels the playing field. If this ban directly affects you, work with U.S. manufacturers and system integrators not simply to understand how you benefit from UAV technology per se, but instead how you redress the economic conditions and consequences currently being endured under the status quo. The goal is to create a partnership to fulfill the requirements to complete a whole product solution. There are certainly U.S. companies that have worked with the open source community to develop purpose-built solutions for specific markets much better than any of the Chinese manufacturers. Here’s a video of one of them.
  15. Contact the folks at Freefly, their gimbals, camera control and drones are the industry standard. They probably know all the resources for training on their systems.
  16. Depending on the type of drone you should have flight control over 2.4GHz, and computer control over something like 1.2GHz or 900MHz.
  17. It’s been several months since we’ve applied for this type of waiver but when we did it was reasonably easy to get. The trouble is that not all class B airports are required to participate in the LAANC program which means that those that do deal with this issue differently. It’s really up to the controllers at each location. The key to a successful application is being very specific about what your trying to accomplish and as exact about your flight path as possible. They want to know that you know what your doing so include how you’ll know exactly how high your flying, (hint) — that readout in the GoApp is not an altimeter and can be off considerably because of density altitude, how are you going to calibrate it to the altimeter reading in the ATIS? Do you have more than a failsafe but also a backup if you lose control signal? They don’t want an out of control drone interfering with their traffic. They want to know that you understand ATIS, DA, COMMs, clearances, and how it effects your mission and their traffic. Don’t think of the “0” as an altitude, think of it a “zero tolerance.” If you can convince them that you know what your doing and you’ve implemented procedures to mitigate as many of their concerns as possible then the lickelyhood for a waiver is quite good. If your directly on the approach, get an IFR approach plate and make sure your maximum height is at least 500’ below the approach. Might not be possible but if it is make sure to include that in your request. Also keep your flight times to an absolute minimum. Hope this helps.
  18. I’d be interested in learning more. How close to a MVP are you? We’ve done some interior scans in GPS denied envrinments which have different challenges from terrestrial scans. Also, a harsh reality in the US is the changing perception regarding Chinese technology being used in the collection of sensitive data. It will make it a more difficult sale in the US if your located in China. At least for the foreseeable future. Havine said that we’re certainly interested in learning more.
  19. The Hyperlapse is well done, but it’s the creative use of audio and editing that make this such an affective video. Regarding the location and legalities, I was just curious. It would be nearly impossible to produce that here in the US, not only because of altitude restrictions but also because of the cloud clearances and flight over people. Enjoy your freedom while you have it.. keep up the great work.
  20. Where are you located? That’s a great start to a career using UAVs. The challenge is not flying the drone and getting the right overlaps etc., it’s accounting for all the dynamic variables in the collection of data to establish a more accurate relationship between the sensor and the thing being scanned. To be competitive and meet the ever increasing need for better precision is very difficult with a Phantom 4 type of drone. Good luck.
  21. Welcome to the forum. Something people overlook when asking for this type of advice is that a UAV simply extends the reach of those people doing the same thing on the ground. By extending the reach upwards of 200 feet you increase the efficiency by an order of magnitude (which is part of the UAVs value proposition) if it can be done as accurately. In order to determine the accuracy you need to be able to determine it on the ground, which means in this case you need to be a surveyor. The deliverables are not determined by the capability of the UAV but by the already established workflow. There is little to no value to flying a drone, anyone can do it. But not everyone will become a surveyor or civil engineer. If your already an engineer or on the path to becoming one then a UAV can be another important tool. If your hoping to sell “drone” services to engineering firms then that’s a much tougher sell. So for us to be competitive we use a full frame 65MP camera w/70-246mm lens and 3-axis gimbal, with precision navigation weighs about 7 pounds so we had to engineer and manufacture our own UAVs. We use Bentley Systems ContextCapture to create 3D pointclouds and meshes and Microstation to create 2D cad deliverables.
  22. Obviously this is no longer a rumor. Why don’t those that have ordered and possibly received their MavicAir2 start a new thread and post example footage and/reviews of your early impressions?
  23. This is incredibly well done. There appear to be several aerials shot from approximately 2,000 feet or higher, were those shot with the Mavic2Pro? In the US this could be an issue. I don’t really care about the legality of this more about how you planned and possibly mitigated those concerns. Was this a professional shoot? Did you work with others on this project? It appears to be so well thought out. Congratulations on creating such a great video.
  24. One of the things that is often debated on this forum is the effect of negative press from someone doing something stupid with a drone. Flying over downtown NY to get some great cityscapes for example. That sort of debate should also take place regarding this sort of article, not for the sake of criticizing the article but to challenge the efficacy of the service or claims being made about this type of service. A quick disclaimer, for those that might not have clicked through to the article, Zack focuses mostly on the regulatory framework and the different kinds of Part 135 etc. However, shouldn't there be a debate on the claims companies are making regarding the success of these programs? I would like to think that the folks on this forum, people interested in a career that involves UAS, are able to think critically and discuss this developing market in a constructive way. It's important, if we can't have conversations about this that reach the broader mainstream narrative, then this industry runs the risk of being irrelevant before it ever gets started. Reports like these can do irreparable harm to the way the general public perceives of this industry: https://dronelife.com/2020/04/21/ups-drone-delivery-droneup-partners-fly-to-prove-the-case-for-coronavirus-response/ https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/droneup-ups-testing-coronavirus-medical-supply-delivery Even taking some of this rhetoric at its word, how feasible is delivering packages with an Inspire2, some string and a bag? Flytrex claims it can deliver up to 6.6 pounds, it lowers its payload from 80 feet, how long does that take? They use a DJI M600, how many deliveries do you think an M600 can make lowering up to 6.6 pounds 80 feet before having to swap out $1450 worth of batteries? How much can they charge for this type of service? How much does it cost to provide it? Is anyone else curious about the scalability? Because of the hype associated with drone delivery and the need for NPUASTS to issue press releases on their "success" what affect is this having on public perception? Apparently drone companies can say anything, especially if you mention COVID-19 and the public will believe it. Is that really what we want? PRESS RELEASE: This just in -- Aerial Alchemy produces latest Star Wars movie in one take using a drone!" Oh yeah -- FOR SALE: 1 super powerful mini quad that can carry a 6.6 pound payload on one 500MAh battery for three hours. $50.00 1 high tech eight axis gimbal (string) $55,000.00 1 Canon 5DS (only dropped a few times) $3,500.00 1 DJI don't drink the Koolaid shirt $Priceless