Trevorm

The Parrot Bebop

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Well, here is my opening post.
 
1) The whole subject of Drones interests me and the reason for signing up to UAV Coach Web site is that I have just purchased low cost, entry level prosumer camera Drone, the Parrot Bebop 3. I have downloaded the manual and read it several times but before launching a flight of any potential consequence, I am researching useful resources before doing what I purchased the drone to do. In addition I am of course wanting to avoid seriously crashing my Drone or getting arrested for buzzing the local Ministry of Defense site.
 
2) I am an amateur/semi professional videographer and about to film a natural history programme I have been planning for 6 months. The programme is setting a Winter poem to the small screen with words of the poem and music as the sound track and relevant stunning moving images as the visual contribution. The programme involves significant video  of rural and farmhouse scenes, together with some less rural locations. I have written the script around the poem and am currently researching locations and planning the various styles of shots to both tell the story well and create an appropriate visual impact for each scene to do justice to the poem (and the audience).
 
I have decided that one or two of the shots would be beneficially taken from an elevated vantage point of which there are none in the currently chosen ideal location(s). I therefore have the choice of hiring a tower or a very large camera crane or even a helicopter, none of which can I afford. I am therefore left with the limited choice of deleting the scenes or using a drone camera.
 
I also want to film another scene moving about 1 metre above ground level along a ploughed furrow at about 3 metres /sec and without about 30 metres of level camera dolly track and the camera dolly of course, the shot is going to be quite bumpy to say the least not to mention visually unattractive.
 
I am videoing in Full HD and based on shots I have seen taken by others using the Bebop Drone from elevated locations, I feel I may get the results I looking for from this entry level pro-user toy.
 
You can no doubt appreciate that trying a camera drone for the aforementioned shots is a potentially sensible proposition but I will need to be a reasonably decent pilot even if the Bebop's camera stability is legendary.
 
I found your Web site whilst browsing for assistance /guidance and was interested to note you offered advice for flying a Quadcopter and you have a forum with some pretty impressive contributors. I feel, that if successful, I will have a pretty interesting contribution to make to your site as well.
 
There you go, that's my story and however ambitious it may sound, I am going to do it somehow. I wish you ongoing success with your Web site.
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For what you are trying to do you want something with a gimbal stabilized camera. The Bebop has none and it's iso/color balance is crap. The Bebop is squarely in the toy category.

I'd highly recommend getting the Phantom 3 or the Inspire 1 if you can afford it. 

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12 hours ago, Keith said:

For what you are trying to do you want something with a gimbal stabilized camera. The Bebop has none and it's iso/color balance is crap. The Bebop is squarely in the toy category.

I'd highly recommend getting the Phantom 3 or the Inspire 1 if you can afford it. 

Keith,

I'd be interested to know if your view is based having owned a Bebop 3 and flown it or whether you are just quoting what you have read / heard else where.

Thankfully, what you say is not my personal experience. I don't pretend the Bebop is anything other than an entry level device, possible a toy as you say but the electronic 3 axis stabilization of the camera has proven itself to excellent to me and the colour balance hasn't presented a problem.

Of course, Ionly speak from actual personal experience.

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48 minutes ago, dronepic said:

Do you have a skycontroller. The bebop is very hard to control just using phone.  

Hi,

NoI have not got a Sky Controller but  I have paired an Ipega 9023 with my Android tablet,which works well. If you are not familiar with the Ipega 9023, it has the facility to accommodate up to a 10.1" tablet in a telescopic clamping arrangement between the handles. That gives me the option of using the joysticks and other controls on the Ipega and/or the tablet screen. I have found the Ipega quite responsive but of course this does not give theextended range. Not that I need that just now.

I have to say, I would not spend that kind of money on the Bebop controller. I would buy a higher qulity drone I think.

I am new to drones so have stacks to learn. I have been more or less forced to go the drone route due to a film I am making. I am happy with the results I m getting at present.

Thanks for your response.

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No have not personally used one, but saw a few reviews. For anything beyond basic hobby use a gimbal really is a must.

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6 hours ago, Keith said:

No have no personally used one, but saw a few reviews. For anything beyond basic hobby use a gimbal really is a must.

Of course Keith, you are entitled to your own opinion but I like to base advice I give on personal experiences which I do have in the case of the Bebop. The software gimbal does work exceedingly well if you set your Bebop up properly in the first place. I did start out however accepting this is an entry level device. I guess we have to agree to differ on this.

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Trevorm,

I'm in the same place re: the Sky Controller.  I'd like to learn to operate with the joy stick, and perhaps have the added security and range, but for another $500, I'd rather make the next step up.  So for me, it's a bit of a dilemma.

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I am nearly where I want to get with the Ipega 9023 controller. I am only after three separate  6 second shots and I am confident I'll get what I need as long as I take my shots through the centre of the lens and not through the edge of the fish eye as near edge shots do seem to produce poorer results. This is down to lens quality though not anything to do with the software gimbal.

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It's replies like Keith's that give reviews a bad name. He makes comments about something he has no knowledge of.  If he would even look at 1 Bebop 2 video, he would eat his words. The Bebop 2 image is the most stable image I've seen and is what prompted me to buy one. The Drone could be flying upside down and the image would still be perfectly straight. But as stated, the SC is A huge advantage when flying it. You referenced a BB 3 which I'm not sure what you mean since the BB2 is the latest one.

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The School i work at was able to secure an educational deal with Parrot for some Bebop 2 i will let you know my own experience, trials, and tribulations as we go through the year.  WE were able to get the sky controllers as well as this is a key point for the course.

Also a point on Gimbal versus digital stabilization, both are  a means to accomplish stable pictures they go about it from two different approaches, the gimbal utilizes motors to make about 2000 corrections a second achieving the desired effect. The Digital version, which was mainly driven by cell phone manufacturers ( you can thank them for ting GNSS/GPS, cameras, accelorometers, and a lot of the other tiny devices hidden inside your smartphone), uses a digital (software) stabilization technique. In its early days this was no where close to the level of a physical gimballed system, with the advances in mobile photography and videography, this became a must have for new devices like the samsung galaxy or note as well as the infamous iPhone. Since full length movies can now be shot using an iPhone alone;  the stabilization software has come a very, very long way. At the end of the day i suggest seeing if you can get your hands on one of each try them out and determine which fits your needs best.

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Hello RP....That is one long screen name. :)

Thanks for your contribution. I am now happy that I can get exactly what I want from the Bebop 2 drone, Ipega 9023 and an attached  Android tablet. The whole system works well. The "Flight Plan App" has also given me superb smooth flight, video Image capture results and I am just soooo pleased I did not spend more money upgrading as recommended above. I have compared video taken from a Phantom 3  which Is not significantly different to the Bebop images taken same time, same day, same location.

I do concede that the Bebop lacks power but this is not the basis of the differing opinion in this thread. I also concede that there are better sports cams than the one on the Bebop but the software gimbal is an absolute technical breakthrough and doesn't go wrong!

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Great @Trevorm, glad to hear you are happy and having a good experience.

For future reference, as some names are even longer than mine if you use the @ symbol and then start typing a name it should bring up a drop down list of members names that you can pick from, this will save time typing but will also notify that user that they have been brought up in a conversation. Cheers and keep flying!

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