New Reporting Details How Naval Ships Were Repeatedly Swarmed by “Mystery Drones” Off the Coast of California


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Back in July of 2019, U.S. naval ships off the coast of southern California were repeatedly swarmed at night by UAVs. Despite extensive investigations, the Navy still doesn’t know who they belong to or what the intentions were of those flying them.

The first cluster of these drone incursions took place over two days in mid-July of 2019, with up to six drones at a time flying over and around the ships.

The first hint that these incidents had taken place came from Dave Beaty, a documentary filmmaker, who mentioned a navy ship’s encounter with a possible UAV in a tweet last year.

The tweet got the attention of reporters at The Drive, who began submitting Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to the U.S. government to learn more about what had taken place.

Read today's post to learn more about the incidents and why they seem so mysterious to investigators.

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I think it is the Chinese military, they have been building up their navy for years now, this was more fact finding on their part to learn as much as possible about the US naval capabilities, and perhaps response capabilities, and their lack there of...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/05/china/china-world-biggest-navy-intl-hnk-ml-dst/index.html

 

 

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For people who enjoy this type of “espionage” have fun with it but don’t confuse anything CNN reports with reality. 

Every year the federal government exercises the EAP for first responders and for all of the agencies responsible for protecting our deep water ports.  This exercise includes things like smuggling in nuclear material, biohazards, drugs, human trafficking as well as accidents in the harbor that might block shipping or present a hazard to nearby communities.  These are extremely well run experiments that can last up to three months.  Sometimes commercial, naval and coastguard vessels become part of the experiment without any prior notice.  That’s what testing the EAP is all about, determining how well they handle the unknown.  

Unfortunately as part of the media CNN is informed about these exercises in order to help prevent the public from panicking.  Many of these exercises are conducted within eyesight of the public. Instead of reporting about any of this in a way that benefits the public they choose to report this type of clickbait for the sake of ratings. 

I’m sure it’s profitable and more fun to misrepresent the situation. After all it could be Chinese drones that could fly in from about 20 miles and hover around for 90 minutes at night around some naval ships, or even better they were aliens.  

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Calling them drones is laughable.

We all know what drones look like. And all drones send and receive electronic signals that can be detected and examined.

It isn't outside the realm of possibility for our Navy to shoot them down especially if they are within striking distance of a US Ship. It would have been very easy to answer who, if they had been disabled and the wreckage examined.  So, ask yourselves, why didn't the Navy do that and reveal the culprit?

Because they are the same UAP that was previously shown in the 2019 Pentagon release.

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Hey @Av8Chuck the Navy has denied that the drones sighted were theirs. Are you saying that the most likely explanation is they belonged to another branch of government and the Navy was unaware of that (or didn't want to disclose that)? Given that this took place almost two years ago, it seems like that information would now be available via a FOIA request, which The Drive made a bunch of for their reporting—what do you think?

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Hi Zacc, who IS the Navy?  Who speaks for the Navy?  Part of what started this wild goose chase was a FOIA which received the logs from those on duty that night.  Its not that "The" Navy doesn't want to disclose the information, they probably don't think there's anything to disclose.  

A lot of Media organizations want to create notoriety for themselves by generating this kind of clickbait.  I don't have the answer but I sure don't think they were the Chinese spying on us.  They don't need to use drones and if they did where did they launch and recover them from?   How many drones could fly ten miles and then loiter for 90 minutes two years ago? 

The Drive is really grasping at straws trying to put together some FIOAS to spin this yarn, just like they did with the story about how Rogue Drones Paralyzed Gatwick Airport for More than 20 hours.  Funny think about that, no drones were ever found.  Do you think The Drive made money on that story?  Besides the cover photo isn't even good Photoshop.   

Do you think any of this is good for the image of commercial drones?  What do you think the Drive is hoping to accomplish?  Maybe create some false interest in this so they can make money?  Do you think we should help them spread this sort of hyperbole?

This is a video from one of the missions we did for Coast Trident 2018, check out the destroyer as we leave the harbor.  Hmmm.  I'd show you the video from 2019 but I'm afraid the jig would be up...

 

 

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"where did they launch and recover them from?  "

could be nuclear submarines and/or nuclear drones, that would explain a number of performance characteristics

small nuclear-battery drones wouldn't be hard to build, any undergrad engineer in the US could do it if they had access to the materials, and they could fly for days (if not weeks) on end without refueling

NASA already launched a few into space iirc

well within Chinese military technical capabilities

whatever it was, it wasn't just a naval exercise, as the Navy seems to have taken it seriously

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@TallDave, welcome to the forum.  Where are you from?  Here in the US any person who writes a controversial book and produces a documentary about it can garner a fair amount of notoriety.  Get some Naval aviators on camera talking about their experiences, like the Bermuda Triangle and you have a best seller.  Just because they make the talk show circuit doesn’t make it true nor does it mean it didn’t happen.  My point is I don’t think the Navy is taking this all that seriously.  

Nuclear batteries were invented by RCA in the 50’s. Great science project, lots of potential applications in powering such medical devices like pace makers and hearing aides, but you don’t see them being used because they couldn’t mitigate the health risk.   Betavoltaic power sources are particularly well-suited to low-power electrical applications.  Even if they could make them safe to handle there’s no way they could meet power requirements of a drone. 

NASA does not use betavoltaic batteries, they use RTGs (Radioisotopic Thermal Generators) often referred to as nuclear batteries. They use heat to generate electricity, they’re tiny nuclear power plants.  Ingenuity, the Mars coaxial helicopter is solar powered.  The lander uses a MMRTG. 

Great out of the box thinking but these are problems that PhDs have been working on for decades. That battery regardless how it’s defined is worth a fortune and no one has figured it out in 70 years of R&D.  
 

1 hour ago, TallDave said:

could be nuclear submarines and/or nuclear drones

The likely hood that a country that has a nuclear submarine would bring it into US territorial waters to launch some drones is highly unlikely. Not because the Navy would try to sink it, but because they have a great record of running into things...

also, when you see the pictures the guy used for his interviews all the drones have bright lights.  It’s a UAV, it doesn’t need lights to see where it’s going, lights on drones are so the operator can see it.  If you were trying to collect data about the Navy wouldn’t you turn the lights off?  It’s not even good photoshop. 

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